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Sorry guys, but these MP problems with mods have got beyond a joke now......I'm taking mine out, every night someone (or more than 1) has problems getting it to work MP......so many different things going wrong we can no longer get enough people to make it usable - everyone is so fed up with it they prefer to play SP, how sad is that ?.

I suggest we give vanilla a go for a while, we might need a ton of "rules" to stop the more stupid stuff but at least it's playable. I must have spent 10 hours this week trying to help others get the NB mod working.

i dont think you can put up with the vanilla too long acc.to me Gunner but you are totally right about the moods.

I eventually got 2f with the patch to work in sp but only without the lordz map pack installed, i restarted steam removed the pack file, put the 2f main file in, checked that worked, then added the patch, which also now works, although for some strange reason with the patch installed the balance of power bar no longer works during battles.

However if I put the lordz map pack in the data folder the game crashes whilst starting up, I tried redownloading the map pack but that made no difference.

The localisation file with the new maps is causing problems I think. Couldn't get Darths working MP with the maps either so its not only the NBG mod.

I'm coming around to the idea that we all need to stop mixing and matching mods. Mod makers interested in varied play need to 'suck in' the lordz maps and players need to use only their mod of choice. Its common at the moment for folks to use (or not use) the lordz maps, Darths, NBG (on top), bits of others like formations mod, or smoke or blood, etc, etc. I feel pretty sure this is the root cause of the evil.

Moopere

I suggest we could either try for a while vanilla + Lordz maps, as you mention Gunner, with simple & strict rules
or try the Darth mod multi, but it's sad maps are not working with it, cause it would be a nice "new flavour" to have some 2v2 games with hudge armies like the CB.
Darth mod MP is extremely simple to load since we just add (no deleting at all) only 1 file.

I totally agree with Frog. Gunner, give this Darth a try when you have time please.

Yeah, its not terrible eh? Not quite as finessed as NBG on its better days, but not terrible.

What we really need mates is a single patch pack which includes the following:

- Darths unit sizes
- TROM variety and historical correctness
- Lordz Maps
- all overlayed by NBG sensibilities

Its a big ask and a big job, but this type of integrated mod would be the business friends.

Regards, Moopere

I will not be playing anything WITHOUT the Lordz maps, if they don't work the game is not worth playing anyway with just the vanilla maps........tbh this whole thing is annoying me a lot now, the mod DOES work, the maps DO work, yet we have all these problems !.

I'm either going to try vanilla MP (with the Lordz maps) or have a break for a while.

IF the darth mod works MP with Lordz maps and it always works, then I'm happy to try that, but not if we get the same MP problems as with NB mod.

I'm desperate here fellas.
I will not play vanilla and i agree with G24 anything with out the Lordz maps is almost as useless, we have played the CA maps to death.

this is what i have posted at the TWC and if confirmed by MC and Moopere that it is all thats needed i will happily spread the instructions around, off course we still have to get folks to read it and then do it correctly

We so badly need everybody to get this mod working
I haven't had a single MP game since the last patch, i still cant bring my self to play vanilla.

G24 we can see you are really fed up and i don't blame you, night after night in the lobby trying to get a game and getting nowhere, is a real drag.

Perhaps as Moopere has suggested some simple instructions posted here and maybe at the other relevant sites including the clan sites where we have NBG players, is our only hope.
We only need this regarding the following i believe ??

1. making sure your ETW install is verified with steam.(i just did mine and it seems all was not right, but now is).
2. making sure your script file is not corrupted.( is this scripts found in roaming ? the same place as your replays ? and is the only thing you should have there "preferences.empire_s..." ??

Would simple and clear instructions on where to find and how to do, on the above, be all we need to get things running smoothly again ??

Cheers DJ.

P.S. I have seen that MC has posted instructions on point 1 in trouble shooting on the first page.

Dougie, your 100% right, but the problem is everyone has already been told this over and over again, yet we still have the problem. The mod works, we all know it works, yet there are so many that can not get it to work, and so many others that would rather play SP than hang around getting no where in the MP lobby.

As soon as I see people getting games and making it work I'll be back, but I really can not carry on like the last 2 weeks - it's utterly pointless.

Vanilla can be playable now, with a "no spikes" rule being the only really serious rule needed - at least it works, and with the Lordz maps.